PSA: AT&T Doing away with $35 iPad Unlimited.

Post by **mr.busy** » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:34 pm

gscheb wrote: Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:52 pm Well I said before time will tell if places are legit resellers with AT&T.
If you read this message seems they where more than likely selling the ipad plan.

Got this message today thru email.
https://traveldata.page/?na=v&nk=41-b981308a6f&id=3

Seems all these resellers are moving to T-Mobile and don't require any special TTL setting so what plan are they using thru T-Mobile? Does anyone know what they are doing?

If they aren't buying special blocks direct from T-Mobile, my best guess is they are reselling Teltik.com plans. I use the $30/mo unlimited tablet plan but they are picky about IMEIs (some phones/modems work, some don't). They have $40/mo unlimited phone plans and also a $50/mo unlimited plan that appears to have no restrictions under the IOT section, which is what I'd guess people would resell.

Post by **gscheb** » Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:58 pm

What ever traveldata.page is selling it has unlimited hot spot data. Do any of these plans work with unlimited hotspot data with no TTL settings?

Post by **mr.busy** » Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:53 pm

gscheb wrote: Thu Apr 09, 2020 3:58 pm What ever traveldata.page is selling it has unlimited hot spot data. Do any of these plans work with unlimited hotspot data with no TTL settings?

I THINK the $50 IOT X150 Data Failover plan would fit the bill, but I have not tried it personally since I'm able to get by on the $30 tablet plan.
More info here: https://www.reddit.com/r/teltik/
someone asking about the x150 plan here: https://www.reddit.com/r/teltik/comment ... iot_plans/

Post by **puechuter** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:34 am

I intend to try tmobile w/ a router that allows me to change ttl. Closest tower is .9mi away using bands 2, 12, 71.

Can anyone recommend a router that fits these needs AND has POE? Not critical, but I already have the infrastructure in place and an external antenna setup (proxicast antenna and what was once an lb1121 powered by ipad line).

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:34 am

An LM960 modem installed a WG3526-P router would fit the bill

Post by **BrentV** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 8:26 pm

Well simple mobile appears to be throttling me to unusable speeds now in my we826 w/ mc7455. Had been working fine since Mar 31. Strangely if I go through a VPN it's decently fast and actually usable. When I disconnect from the VPN it wont even load a webpage. I was hoping it was some sort of network issues, but I think if that were the case the VPN wouldn't help the situation. On the plus side, using a VPN is at least a workaround. In the meantime I'll monitor the situation and Might try some other providers. Was looking into teltik but information is limited.

Edit: billA is working on a possible solution. Will also be testing page plus in the coming days. Will reply back with the results.

Post by **puechuter** » Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:33 pm

Didneywhorl wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 11:34 am An LM960 modem installed a WG3526-P router would fit the bill

Thanks! Do you have any other reliable sources for the router and modem? Looks like The Wireless Haven is sold out of the router and doesn't carry the modem.

Post by **BrentV** » Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:52 pm

How do we contact ATT over these prepaid plans anyway? I have a line that used 1131 GB and appears to have been shut down 5 days before the bill was due on the 12th. But they charged me again for a new month and have an email that says it was successfully renewed. The Sim card doesn't have data, when I throw it in an IPAD it shows full At&t signal but has no internet access.

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:25 pm

You'll likely get this email soon....

Your data account above has been canceled either at your request or due to inactivity on the account. To re-subscribe, please visit Settings > Cellular Data on your iPad.

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Post by **BrentV** » Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:45 pm

So how do I get a refund since they shut the data off several days before the renewal? I'm not worried about the previous month but there's no reason to spend $35 for a full month of non service.

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:56 pm

call em. They did it to me the day after renewal. I didnt ask. I just let it go.

Post by **Twoods196** » Mon Apr 13, 2020 11:03 pm

Wanted to put a post here to inform an possibly help someone. My iPad data plan was closed about 2 weeks ago. Couple days ago I decided to call them. Luckily for me their was a issue with there site an there database with customer info. Long story short they are reactivating the account but here is where things start to get interesting. While talking to the rep I was talking to him about the iPad unlimited plan an no longer available. He said, it's still available we just had to put some some security measures up to stop people from abusing them in hotspots. Being in CyberSecurity this kinds Intrigued me so I spent about 2-3hrs looking into some stuff then I finally figured it out. This is where your gonna be disappointed, unfortunately I can not tell how to get around this as if I did it would just be fully removed or patched. I just wanted to throw this out there for anyone that wants to put in the time to figure it out. If anything changes where I can post instructions I will. Good luck all

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:33 am

Direct messages where requested is pretty secure, no?

Post by **shwaba** » Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:35 am

BrentV wrote: Mon Apr 13, 2020 8:45 pm So how do I get a refund since they shut the data off several days before the renewal? I'm not worried about the previous month but there's no reason to spend $35 for a full month of non service.

If they are unwilling to refund you , why couldn't you dispute the charge with your credit card company? You paid for a service they did not provide it. The cancellation emails they are sending out are not stating that their TOS has been violated. Just my 2 cents

Post by **BrentV** » Tue Apr 14, 2020 10:30 am

shwaba wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:35 am If they are unwilling to refund you , why couldn't you dispute the charge with your credit card company? You paid for a service they did not provide it. The cancellation emails they are sending out are not stating that their TOS has been violated. Just my 2 cents

Yeah Im sure I could. I havent even tried asking them, I wasnt sure where to contact them. Id prefer to just open a chat or send an email, but the contact page from the prepaid login seems to send me in circles.

Post by **jackstack** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:06 pm

A t t is shutting these accounts down by checking the imei on device for the original imei that is supposed to be on the ipad device, if they don't match it shuts down the account. You will notice when you go to the signal it will go to wcdma and nothing else. It is really nice of them to do this now when so many counted on it.

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 9:29 am

Reports so far show that none of the post paid ipad plans are being shut down. For now. Some people work around the imei problem. Not legal in the US

Post by **jackstack** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:08 pm

What makes me mad as these mother fu

kers shut down these accounts 1 day after payment was made for the month and they knew what was going on, and they wait until the very worst time and then steal all this money from everyone. That's all I will say but, they will never get my money again.

Post by **thejohnfist** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:41 pm

Just another update -- Mine has renewed twice. Still working fine. I believe this is more geared/targeted against high volume users. Haven't heard of anyone using less than 400GB getting canned yet. Guess we'll see. I try to keep mine below 300. Usually doable.

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:37 pm

thejohnfist wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:41 pm Just another update -- Mine has renewed twice. Still working fine. I believe this is more geared/targeted against high volume users. Haven't heard of anyone using less than 400GB getting canned yet. Guess we'll see. I try to keep mine below 300. Usually doable.

Pre paid account or Post paid?

Post by **thejohnfist** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 3:27 pm

Didneywhorl wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:37 pm Pre paid account or Post paid?

Autopay - so Prepaid?

Post by **shwaba** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 9:08 pm

thejohnfist wrote: Fri Apr 17, 2020 12:41 pm Just another update -- Mine has renewed twice. Still working fine. I believe this is more geared/targeted against high volume users. Haven't heard of anyone using less than 400GB getting canned yet. Guess we'll see. I try to keep mine below 300. Usually doable.

Both of my prepaid ipad accounts are still active too. We use 600GB per month load balanced at 300GB per account. Working for now.

Post by **Byulos** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:27 pm

BillA wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:10 pm .
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Here's a list of currently available unlimited prepaid plans for mobile routers

1. ATT

ATT tablet/iPad plan $35/mo, 30Mbps speeds, 50ms latency, deprioritized after 30GB, has been discontinued.
ATT unlimited prepaid $65/$75/mo, 30Mbps speeds, 50ms latency, deprioritized after 30GB
ATT based Cricket $65/mo, 8Mbps speeds, 50ms latency, deprioritized after 30GB
ATT based H2O $60/mo, 8Mbps speeds, 50ms latency, deprioritized after 30GB

Note: Must be used in a router with the TTL set to 65 such as the WE826, WG3526, or any OpenWRT flashable router like an Asus or Netgear, it will not work in others like the Netgear M1 Nighthawk, LB112x modem, etc.
According to reports, currently the ATT $65/$75 plans are not working in mobile routers due to ATT blocking modems.
As a workaround, you can try putting the sim into a compatible phone, first make sure you can go online on the phone's browser, then connect the phone to the router via usb, turn on the USB Tethering on the phone, in the router's settings select the phone as the modem and also disable or pull out the internal modem, set the proper APN and TTL, then run some speed tests. You see, when carriers give you lemons, you gotta make lemonade!;)

2. Tmobile

Tmobile unlimited prepaid $60/mo, 100Mbps speeds, 40ms latency, deprioritized after 50GB
Tmobile based MetroPCS $50/mo, 100Mbps speeds, 40ms latency, deprioritized during congestion
Tmobile based SimpleMobile $50/mo, 100Mbps speeds, 40ms latency, deprioritized during congestion

Note: Must be used in a router with the TTL set to 65 such as the WE826, WG3526, or any OpenWRT flashable router like an Asus or Netgear, it will not work in others like the Netgear M1 Nighthawk, LB112x modem, etc.

3. Verizon

Verizon unlimited prepaid $70/mo, 40Mbps speeds, 50ms latency, deprioritized during congestion
Verizon based PagePlus $55/mo, 40Mbps speeds, 50ms latency, deprioritized during congestion
Verizon based Visible $40/mo, 5-10Mbps speeds, 150+ms latency, deprioritized during congestion

Note: Must be used in a router with the TTL set to 117 such as the WE826, WG3526, or any OpenWRT flashable router like an Asus or Netgear, it will not work in others like the Netgear M1 Nighthawk, LB112x modem, etc.

4. Sprint

Sprint doesn't offer any prepaid plans themselves, but you should be able to use one of their unlimited postpaid plans. Boost Mobile does have a Sprint based unlimited prepaid service with some coverage and speed restrictions. Tmobile has announced that the takeover of Sprint should be completed by April 2020. The actual integration of Sprint's towers and spectrum will likely be completed during the course of a year, which should provide both company's customers improved coverage and speeds.

5. Other
Walmart has their own StraightTalk service at $45/mo using various carriers, but they add on a bunch of taxes and fees, and throttle pretty aggressively to the point of being almost unusable. As they say "You get what you pay for."
Then there are a bunch of other smaller prepaid providers, but they are all just reselling the major carrier's services at higher prices.

Note#1
The above speeds/latencies are real world experiences using a Quectel EP06-A CAT-6 modem, with good signal, and no congestion or deprioritization. Your results may vary depending on the equipment used, location, and time of day.

Note#2
Most prepaid services offer an auto-pay discount, but they also add on a bunch of taxes and 911/FCC fees, so your final cost will end up to be around the regular listed prices. Nowadays using credit cards online is risky, with companies getting hacked every day. You can usually find a local dealer on the carrier's website, therefore it's highly recommended to pay locally, they usually offer a cash discount along with complete anonymity, or online by PayPal if available which is much safer.

Note#3
You can purchase a PagePlus (red packet) or SimpleMobile (green packet) activation sim kit from BestBuy, Target, Walmart or online on Amazon or Ebay. If you don't have a compatible phone to use for activation or just want to do it quickly and anonymously, I can help you activate it remotely, disable video throttling, make a test call and test the data before switching the service over to your sim card. I can also help you out with any setup issues, all you have to do is simply insert the sim into your router, and it should be good to go. If interested, just send me a private message.

Here's all the hardware you need to get started with a mobile router.

Mobile router/modem
https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?p=6272#p6272

Antennas
At first you can try your service with the "stubby" antennas which comes with the router, and if you'd like to improve your signal/speed, you may want to get a pair of high gain external antennas.
https://thewirelesshaven.com/product-category/antennas/

And finally, to make it all work together, you need to flash the router with OpenWRT firmware.
https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?p=6007#p6007

Hey BillA,

I am currently on the ATT $35 plan, and am looking into possible alternatives for when/if it ends up being cancelled. I use about 500-600GB a month. When looking at T-Mobile, I see there are two plans. The $60 "Unlimited Plus" and the $50 "Unlimited". The only difference being the Plus has 10GB of mobile hotspot. Am I right to assume the $50 plan is the one I should get? Plan on using it in a WE826-T2 with a Sierra Wireless EM7565 that I put together. With MetroPCS and SimpleMobile it sounds like they get deprioritized to level even lower than T-Mobile customers, so I would prefer to just deal with them directly. Unless there is another reason to consider them besides the cost. Thanks for your help.

Post by **BillA** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 12:35 am

Byulos wrote: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:27 pm Hey BillA,

I am currently on the ATT $35 plan, and am looking into possible alternatives for when/if it ends up being cancelled. I use about 500-600GB a month. When looking at T-Mobile, I see there are two plans. The $60 "Unlimited Plus" and the $50 "Unlimited". The only difference being the Plus has 10GB of mobile hotspot. Am I right to assume the $50 plan is the one I should get? Plan on using it in a WE826-T2 with a Sierra Wireless EM7565 that I put together. With MetroPCS and SimpleMobile it sounds like they get deprioritized to level even lower than T-Mobile customers, so I would prefer to just deal with them directly. Unless there is another reason to consider them besides the cost. Thanks for your help.

You should be able to use the $50 Tmobile prepaid, the only difference is that the $60 plan comes with more hotspot data, which may not be needed with the proper TTL settings. All the other Tmobile based prepaid services have the same level of prioritization as Tmobile's own prepaid, while postpaid users have the highest priority.

Post by **gscheb** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:04 am

Postpay TMobile has a options to have HD streaming included.
T-Mobile are the only ones I know of that offer a unlimited HD streaming.

If you are over 55 years of age can get the 55+ plan.
Step 1 Get one line of 55+ magenta for $50
Step 2 then Add-ons for the "plus up data" which add 20 gigs of hotspot and HD streaming, for extra $15. So $65 flat with taxes and everything.

If you have friends to share it with can get two lines for $90 of magenta plus. Magenta plus has the HD streaming.

Just did this for someone else this weekend. T-mobile website was super clunk took 24 hours for that option to ever even show up. The sim card was activated right in the MC7455. The sim was mailed to me set up account over the phone. After it set it up used rooter to send and receive text messages. This is under modem then sms messages. This is very useful to get confirmation codes when you are on the phone with them and also to set up your online account.
This way got to keep sim card full size. Don't have to deal with sim card adapters which can be troublesome at times.

APN=fast.t-mobile.com
TTL= 64

Also if you decide to go with the T-Mobile HD plan will have to activate the HD streaming. They try to trick you into not using it.
See this post here.
https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=579

Post by **mr.busy** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:05 pm

gscheb, I'm unable to get into my PMs, I probably don't have enough posts yet to read/send.

Post by **Jim Helms** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:04 am

mr.busy wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:05 pm gscheb, I'm unable to get into my PMs, I probably don't have enough posts yet to read/send.

The PM's and social logins have been temporarily disabled for the forum while we try to figure out where the high CPU usage is coming from--which is producing the SQL errors.

Once corrected, they will be restored.

Post by **bamabuck20** » Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:19 am

Gypsy wireless has att unlimited hotspot data plans. Just have ur unactivated sim card handy and setup only takes 30 min to receive service after signing up. I'm on it.

Post by **hw1353** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:44 pm

gscheb wrote: Fri Apr 24, 2020 7:04 am Postpay TMobile has a options to have HD streaming included.
T-Mobile are the only ones I know of that offer a unlimited HD streaming.

If you are over 55 years of age can get the 55+ plan.
Step 1 Get one line of 55+ magenta for $50
Step 2 then Add-ons for the "plus up data" which add 20 gigs of hotspot and HD streaming, for extra $15. So $65 flat with taxes and everything.

If you have friends to share it with can get two lines for $90 of magenta plus. Magenta plus has the HD streaming.

Just did this for someone else this weekend. T-mobile website was super clunk took 24 hours for that option to ever even show up. The sim card was activated right in the MC7455. The sim was mailed to me set up account over the phone. After it set it up used rooter to send and receive text messages. This is under modem then sms messages. This is very useful to get confirmation codes when you are on the phone with them and also to set up your online account.
This way got to keep sim card full size. Don't have to deal with sim card adapters which can be troublesome at times.

APN=fast.t-mobile.com
TTL= 64

Also if you decide to go with the T-Mobile HD plan will have to activate the HD streaming. They try to trick you into not using it.
See this post here.
https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=579

Did you have to do anything else to activate the SIM other than receive SMS? I also ordered a SIM card from T-mobile, curious if theres any additional steps to activating in the MC7455.

Post by **gscheb** » Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:30 pm

Hello hw1353,
I put the sim directly into the router with the MC7455 and it activated immediately. Then used the messenger in the router to activate my account online and talk to them on the phone when I had issues. Customer service was the biggest issues. Took like 24 hours for the add on I needed to show up on the account just so I could select it.
Was setting this up for someone else that lost their AT&T plan.
The guy on the phone even recognized that it was in a "hotspot device". Those where the words he used. Didn't seem to phase him a bit, he didn't care.
Maybe they don't care considering they sell ISP plan for only $50 per month. Just like the AT&T plan it is all good till it isn't.

Post by **hw1353** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:21 am

gscheb wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:30 pm Hello hw1353,
I put the sim directly into the router with the MC7455 and it activated immediately. Then used the messenger in the router to activate my account online and talk to them on the phone when I had issues. Customer service was the biggest issues. Took like 24 hours for the add on I needed to show up on the account just so I could select it.
Was setting this up for someone else that lost their AT&T plan.
The guy on the phone even recognized that it was in a "hotspot device". Those where the words he used. Didn't seem to phase him a bit, he didn't care.
Maybe they don't care considering they sell ISP plan for only $50 per month. Just like the AT&T plan it is all good till it isn't.

Well I may have over purchased, I found the Global Plus 15 option on the t-mobile website. Unlimited 4g hotspot data I guess is what caught my eye. Was thinking it would be better to pay for it. Didn't want any issues with t-mobile later on. Magenta + Global Plus 15 is still cheaper than what I was paying for verizon service, I just hope it works....looks like you can backout within 14 days if it doesnt.

What really surprised me, was t-mobile is the only site I think I've seen so far, that when you put in the IMEI of the sierra wireless modem, it comes back with a green checkmark, saying its ready to use on their network. Lines up with you saying you were able to activate it in the modem. I had to buy a verizon hotspot to activate my verizon sim for my service. It would not activate in the MC7455.

I know the Verizon IMEI checker said it wouldn't work, hah. Guess t-mobile doesn't care, like you said.

Thanks for the info.

Post by **gscheb** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:34 am

Well that unlimited hotspot global plan is what I have. IT will work without the TTL setting. Nice when go on vacation put it into a hotspot device like Nighthawk M1 and take it with us.
This other plan with out unlimited hot spot setting it up for someone else.

How far are you away from the the T-Mobile tower?

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:59 am

gscheb wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:30 pm Hello hw1353,
I put the sim directly into the router with the MC7455 and it activated immediately. Then used the messenger in the router to activate my account online and talk to them on the phone when I had issues. Customer service was the biggest issues. Took like 24 hours for the add on I needed to show up on the account just so I could select it.
Was setting this up for someone else that lost their AT&T plan.
The guy on the phone even recognized that it was in a "hotspot device". Those where the words he used. Didn't seem to phase him a bit, he didn't care.
Maybe they don't care considering they sell ISP plan for only $50 per month. Just like the AT&T plan it is all good till it isn't.

Is this a phone plan? Or a tablet plan? Im not familiar with "Magenta Plus" etc.

Post by **gscheb** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 10:21 am

It is a phone plan. T-Mobile has all kind of Add-ons. Call themselves the un-carrier but they have just as confusing plans as everybody else, maybe worse. If you are over 55 years of age you can get a a pretty good deal for one line.

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 12:49 pm

Not 55 yet, so it's a no go for me.

BUT I do have a single phone on post pay. One Plus International phone plan. I gotta check out the tablet plans.

Post by **shroudedninja** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 9:00 pm

Just thought I'd post my experience (rant) that was triggered (I believe) by this iPad plan cancellation, leading me to spend $500+ so far. Hopefully this could help others and maybe others would be willing to offer some advice too. Let me know if this is too ranty for this forum.

My wife works from home 100% of the time and now thanks to the lockdown so do I for the time being. My wife does medical interpretation over video stream so needless to say, we NEED stable, somewhat fast internet.

For the last year or so I've been using 4gdata.net for unlimited AT&T service, this came after a year of trying to make Calyx work with my not-so-great Sprint signal. Signing up with them initially was pretty painless, I was able to pick up a prepaid ATT SIM and they had it activated within a couple hours.

I was happy with the fast (albeit expensive) service until the end of March when my modem could no longer connect to ATT. That's when I first heard about ATT starting to discontinue the iPad plan. I was suspicious but opened a ticket with 4gdata and within 6 hours was able to activate a new prepaid SIM and was back up and running.

However I became concerned that this company was simply reselling the iPad plan to me for $100/month. So I canceled my 4gdata account and found another option on eBay (I know, I know, hindsight is 20:20) claiming to be an unlimited Enterprise LTE for only $80/month. I paid the $80 and they sent me the SIM card, which worked, even though I received another bill just a week or so later for another $80. Whatever, I could count the first one as an activation fee. The service was working fine until this weekend when once again, my modem refuses to connect to ATT at all. After sending several emails/eBay messages the seller got back to me about 12 hours later notifying me that ATT had cancelled my account and he was unable to login anymore, suspecting that I had used an unusually large amount of data (I think I hit around 600GB each month). He at least refunded me a portion of this months fee.

Since I was desperate to get ANY kind of internet service restored I went back to 4gdata with a new SIM number to get something setup at least temporarily until I could work out a better solution, knowing that while they aren't my ideal option, at least they could get me activated quickly and my wife and I could at least get some work done.

HUGE MISTAKE. It's now been over 60 hours since I first re-activated my 4gdata account (by paying the new $125 ATT fee) and have yet to receive any response. Only now have I realized their website is a black hole. There is a contact number, which plays a recorded message saying they are working to transition their support staff to work from home because of the virus, and this should be done by April 6. I've cut several tickets to them to ask for any update at all, even as simple as "we're really backlogged at the moment, we'll get to you in around x days".

I've since found that 4gdata.net is the same entity as Sardis Telecom AKA Fuzion USA. The wordpress template on their sites are exactly the same, and my login info from 4gdata works on Sardis. Sardis has a support number, which I called and after waiting through literally 5 minutes of recorded lecture telling me to open a ticket, to be nice to their CSRs, and to follow basic instructions, I was finally put through to an agent. I mentioned that I need to setup my 4gdata account, and at first they acted like they didn't know what that was, but after putting me on hold they took my name and said they'd look into it. They still have not activated my SIM and I'm still unable to work from my home without tethering to my phone (google Fi so it's capped at 30GB and we're only getting ~2Mbps, which isn't quite enough for my wife's job)

In the meantime I also ordered a data plan (~$150

) from UnlimtedIRL on recommendation from the Wireless Joint group. Their site at least has contact details, a twitter handle, and live chat support. I'm hoping this is a better experience but now after reading more I'm unsure as well. Still waiting on the SIM card to arrive to test.

For right now as a bandaid we picked up the 18GB ($75) prepaid plan directly from ATT so at least my wife could work a couple days until the other SIM arrives. We've also called ATT about possibly getting the business plan ($100/100GB) but I'm sure we'd blow through that even when rationing our data as much as possible.

Lessons Learned: Don't buy data plans from sites with obscure/no contact information, don't buy data plans from eBay, don't move somewhere where LTE is the only option for good internet (JK, besides this I love where I live)

Please don't try to sell me anything, I promise I'm not usually this gullible

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Thu Apr 30, 2020 7:28 am

We are all on that path, some further than others.

If you don't mind me asking a few questions....

How far from the Sprint tower(s) are you? What equipment are you using for the Calyx account? What have you tried to get better signal for it?

I love the Calyx connections as they are today. I've used mine for right at 2 years now, just upped for a 3rd. It's just so simple, as long as you can get connected.

Post by **shroudedninja** » Thu Apr 30, 2020 12:38 pm

It's been over a year since I was using Calyx. If I recall correctly, the towers are ~8 miles away, but it's complicated by the fact that my house is surrounded by trees (PNW). I was using MC7455 and WG3526 (later upgraded to Turris Omnia) with 2 largish omni antennas. I tried using some directional antennas but was not successful and gave up on that. On good days I usually got ~10mb/s down.

With AT&T (using just a Netgear LB1120 w/ the omnis) I usually get 25-30 mb/s down.

Post by **brad2388** » Tue May 05, 2020 2:55 pm

i have a couple lines freed up on the unlimited plus plan att offered a couple years ago. it allows hotspots and so far i havent seen anyone slowed down.

Post by **Chungus23** » Tue May 05, 2020 4:00 pm

In the meantime I also ordered a data plan (~$150 ) from UnlimtedIRL on recommendation from the Wireless Joint group.

Oh my god, who recommended that to you? UnlimitedIRL is extremely overpriced.

If you're looking for AT&T, there are plenty of cheaper resellers or vendors on this list:
https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/gear/a ... tal-plans/

You can also use a prepaid AT&T SIM which will be even cheaper.

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Tue May 05, 2020 4:22 pm

Much of the prepaid ATT stuff has been axed

Post by **LateParrot** » Sat May 09, 2020 4:09 pm

Got axed from the dataconnect plan last weekend. Called at&t support and they told me I wasn't allowed to use a modem, I told them I didn't have one that the sim was in a tablet and they cut it back on. Fast forward to this morning, I get a call from the "fraud" department saying "You've got 2 days to remove your sim card from your EM7565 modem or we're closing your account". Getting a tmobile sim tomorrow.

I was averaging about 750gb/mo since October. All good things must come to an end I suppose. Really appreciate this forum, keep up the good work guys.

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Sat May 09, 2020 5:09 pm

Tmobile seems to be much less stringent thus far. I'm using a Magenta plan in one of my units using an MC7455. So far so good.

Post by **brady8807** » Sun May 10, 2020 8:20 am

Didneywhorl wrote: Sat May 09, 2020 5:09 pm Tmobile seems to be much less stringent thus far. I'm using a Magenta plan in one of my units using an MC7455. So far so good.

Tablet plan or regular cell plan?

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Sun May 10, 2020 11:59 am

Its a cell plan, the Magenta.

I told the Tmobile sales lady what I had, an android tablet, and that I wanted the Magenta unlimited data plan, and she said she would send me a SIM and to put it into my tablet. :shrug: Its like $45 a month total. They have tablet plans, but they are stupid, like 30GB for $80 a month, then throttled after that, per the sales lady for Tmo.

Post by **hw1353** » Fri May 15, 2020 9:35 pm

Didneywhorl wrote: Tue May 05, 2020 4:22 pm Much of the prepaid ATT stuff has been axed

Does that mean you could get ATT post paid and it would work?

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Fri May 15, 2020 10:07 pm

**Could** Others are

Post by **hw1353** » Fri May 15, 2020 11:26 pm

Didneywhorl wrote: Fri May 15, 2020 10:07 pm **Could** Others are

Just curious.

Theres lots of ATT 3rd party resellers as well, some are fairly inexpensive compared to verizon options, which is the only immediate tower in my vicinity. Verizon has cut off so many 3rd party resellers, and the ones that are still active are looking for close to 200$ a month.

I've tried the t-mobile magenta plan over the last month, and while it works, I've continually had to mess with my antenna configuration, been hard to find the best spot/tower etc. I may keep it, its just been a lot of work.

ATT has better coverage( according to the maps) bands and overall speeds in my area when tested with a cell phone. At this point, I'm going to try an ATT service this next month and see if I can pick up better signal.

Post by **joek88** » Thu May 21, 2020 11:48 am

Thanks for this thread. There is some great info here, and without it, I would be totally lost.

I know I’m preaching to the choir, but I’d really just like to vent for a minute about AT&T.

I’m in a rural location, so wireless is my only real option for internet. I’ve been on the AT&T $35 iPad unlimited plan for a couple years, and it worked pretty well until now.

Last week, right after my credit card was charged for the next month, my internet stopped working. I spent several hours adjusting the antenna, location, took the modem to the next town over, swapped the sim card, etc, in an attempt to debug it. I received no notice from AT&T about what was happening.

I logged into my account at https://att.com/ipadlanding and tried the contact link on that page, but it provided no help at all. All of the contact options are for other services – I was unable to find anything that applied to my service. I also tried the chat option, but it was about the most worthless thing ever.

The contact page suggested logging in, so I tried creating an account on that site, thinking it could get me some support, but when I put in my iPad’s number, it said I needed to go to the AT&T Premier site for that number. When I put in my number on the Premier site, it said I needed to go back to the main AT&T site. It’s maddening.

Fast forward to today. Today, I get an email saying:

Subject: AT&T data account canceled

Your iPad's Cellular Data Number: XXX-XXX-XXXX

Your data account above has been canceled either at your request or due to inactivity on the account. To re-subscribe, please visit SETTINGS > CELLULAR DATA on your iPad.

Thank you for choosing AT&T.

PLEASE DON'T HIT REPLY

Please go to att.com/contactus for questions or other options. This is an automated email so replies to the address will not be answered.

This is the only response I ever got from AT&T, and of course, it’s a total lie. I didn’t request my account was cancelled, and it certainly wasn’t due to inactivity either! Even the part about att.com/contactus is total BS. You can’t contact them about this plan there! That page is all about funneling you around through useless FAQs, and there is no entry for “AT&T cancelled my service and won’t say why”!

So I called AT&T to figure this out. I got their phone number off of my credit card statement, thinking someone at that number should be able to tell me something. The lady that answered was nice, but said she couldn’t help and she’d transfer me to someone who could. That person said the same, and anyway, I ended up getting transferred to 6 different people over the course of 2 hours (including hold times). No one was ever able to tell me anything about my account at all! I’d give them the cell number, then they’d say I needed to talk to someone else, I’d be put on hold, and the next person would say the same thing! It was beyond frustrating.

Anyway, I filed a dispute claim with my credit card company. It’s complete bull that AT&T had the gall to wait until my next billing cycle, charge me (it’s prepaid), and then cancel the service without even telling me for a week. And when they did tell me, it was a lie anyway, with no useful information. I tried really hard to contact AT&T and get an answer out of them. I really did try.

AT&T – why do you treat your customers like this? I get it if I’m using too much data and you don’t want my business, but in that case, why not just say so? Instead you cancel in the most offensive way. It wastes a ton of my time and your customer support persons’ time too.

Is it just me, or is this completely crazy? This experience will turn me off of AT&T for years. Lots of friends and family come to me for tech support, some of them have AT&T plans. I’m going to tell them about my experience.

I’ve never had such an abysmal customer service experience. I’m honestly just in disbelief here.

Post by **BillA** » Thu May 21, 2020 7:54 pm

joek88 wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 11:48 am Is it just me, or is this completely crazy? This experience will turn me off of AT&T for years. Lots of friends and family come to me for tech support, some of them have AT&T plans. I’m going to tell them about my experience.
I’ve never had such an abysmal customer service experience. I’m honestly just in disbelief here.

It's not just you, almost everyone got canceled on the iPad/tablet plan who has used over 500GB per month (or even less). Apparently they have two different systems, one for billing and the other for service (the switch), which obviously do not communicate properly with each other as they should be. So once you reach their arbitrary usage threshold, the switch kicks your service off, while the billing system keeps billing you. At this point your only recourse is to dispute it with your credit card company, don't waste another minute trying to talk to those ATT clowns.

So let me vent a bit too.... there's a much bigger issue out there how businesses are being run nowadays. Everything seem to be getting automated cutting out the human element completely (for example customer service), and this trend just keeps growing everywhere. If the much touted AI will work the same way as ATT's billing/switch, it may drive safely, it will probably forget to look at the fuel gauge leaving me stranded in the "da hood". lol While that may be a silly example, in my opinion full automation may not be fitting every task out there. Just my 2cents.

Post by **swwifty** » Sun May 24, 2020 8:06 am

does anyone have a link to the t-mobile plans folks are using now?

I have a customer who has Verzion, but got rate limited almost immediately with almost zero use on the "Unlimited plan"....

Post by **gscheb** » Sun May 24, 2020 11:55 am

swwifty wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 8:06 am does anyone have a link to the t-mobile plans folks are using now?

I have a customer who has Verzion, but got rate limited almost immediately with almost zero use on the "Unlimited plan"....

Hello Swwiffy,
Is this customer 55 or older? Ask because can get even better deal if they are thru t-mobile

https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=32 ... data#p7409

Post by **swwifty** » Sun May 24, 2020 7:56 pm

gscheb wrote: Sun May 24, 2020 11:55 am Hello Swwiffy,
Is this customer 55 or older? Ask because can get even better deal if they are thru t-mobile

https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=32 ... data#p7409

Yeah sorry I should have read scroll back, but this thread is looongg.

That doesn't look like unlimited data though?

Post by **gscheb** » Sun May 24, 2020 8:51 pm

Yes it is unlimited data. Just not unlimited hotspot data. Just need TTL of 64 and ready to go.
Like think all T-Mobile post pay is unlimited.

Post by **swwifty** » Fri May 29, 2020 1:43 pm

Sorry for all the questions, but this is still very unclear to me. I have a customer that has a MC7455. Can I just sign up for this plan with t-mobile online, get a sim in the mail from them, and then activate in the MC7455? You said TTL 64, but that seems wrong? It would easily show hotspot data.

Also, where the heck did the private message section go? I can't seem to find it anymore to PM anyone.

Post by **gscheb** » Fri May 29, 2020 1:59 pm

swwifty wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 1:43 pm Sorry for all the questions, but this is still very unclear to me. I have a customer that has a MC7455. Can I just sign up for this plan with t-mobile online, get a sim in the mail from them, and then activate in the MC7455? You said TTL 64, but that seems wrong? It would easily show hotspot data.

Also, where the heck did the private message section go? I can't seem to find it anymore to PM anyone.

PM is disabled right now.
Yes this is true.
T-Mobile will activate right with MC7455.
TTL 64 will work for it not to hotspot.

Then depending on plan rather you have HD streaming or not.

If they live in a very strong T-Mobile area and don't need outdoor antennas they actually sell a $50 internet plan. But you are suppose to use there device that doesn't have a place to hook up antennas or anything.

Post by **swwifty** » Fri May 29, 2020 2:15 pm

gscheb wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 1:59 pm PM is disabled right now.
Yes this is true.
T-Mobile will activate right with MC7455.
TTL 64 will work for it not to hotspot.

Then depending on plan rather you have HD streaming or not.

If they live in a very strong T-Mobile area and don't need outdoor antennas they actually sell a $50 internet plan. But you are suppose to use there device that doesn't have a place to hook up antennas or anything.

Thanks for the info.

So just simply go online and sign up and have them mail me a sim card? Sorry for all the questions, it's just not clear to me how to sign up for the plan and get a working sim card.

Post by **gscheb** » Fri May 29, 2020 2:22 pm

swwifty wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 2:15 pm Thanks for the info.

So just simply go online and sign up and have them mail me a sim card? Sorry for all the questions, it's just not clear to me how to sign up for the plan and get a working sim card.

We called them on the phone told them we already had our own device. They didn't even ask what the device was. They mailed us the sim card and I activated it in the the we826 with mc7455.

Check out this post here is a person that just did it. Maybe can reach out to him as well.
https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=37 ... t=30#p8482

Also last month sold a person a Mofi thru a classified add.
He got a sim card from T-mobile and put it in the device and it worked for him too.

Know it sounds to easy!

Post by **swwifty** » Fri May 29, 2020 3:39 pm

gscheb wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 2:22 pm We called them on the phone told them we already had our own device. They didn't even ask what the device was. They mailed us the sim card and I activated it in the the we826 with mc7455.

Check out this post here is a person that just did it. Maybe can reach out to him as well.
https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=37 ... t=30#p8482

Also last month sold a person a Mofi thru a classified add.
He got a sim card from T-mobile and put it in the device and it worked for him too.

Know it sounds to easy!

okay, thanks for the info. I'll give that a shot. crossing my fingers.

Post by **LogHomeLatency** » Fri May 29, 2020 5:17 pm

gscheb wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 2:22 pm Check out this post here is a person that just did it. Maybe can reach out to him as well.
https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=37 ... t=30#p8482

I found the name Travel Data on another string here and gave it a shot. Found they moved away from ATT plans due to the changes - They only have T-Mo now. I have only had it for a few weeks and have had some sporadic disconnects (don't think it is due to the service - rather my setup). Plugged it into my MoFi, changed the APN and carrier, reset the Sierra module and I was off to the races.
https://traveldata.page/

Post by **prdg79** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:59 pm

After a week without internet, AT&T notified me my iPad plan has been canceled. Has anyone got Metro (by tmobile) to work? I can't get to work on my Rapsbery Pi 3b GoldenOrb using EM12-G.

Post by **docderwood** » Tue Jun 02, 2020 3:52 pm

joek88 wrote: Thu May 21, 2020 11:48 am Thanks for this thread. There is some great info here, and without it, I would be totally lost.

I know I’m preaching to the choir, but I’d really just like to vent for a minute about AT&T.

I’m in a rural location, so wireless is my only real option for internet. I’ve been on the AT&T $35 iPad unlimited plan for a couple years, and it worked pretty well until now.

Last week, right after my credit card was charged for the next month, my internet stopped working. I spent several hours adjusting the antenna, location, took the modem to the next town over, swapped the sim card, etc, in an attempt to debug it. I received no notice from AT&T about what was happening.

I logged into my account at https://att.com/ipadlanding and tried the contact link on that page, but it provided no help at all. All of the contact options are for other services – I was unable to find anything that applied to my service. I also tried the chat option, but it was about the most worthless thing ever.

The contact page suggested logging in, so I tried creating an account on that site, thinking it could get me some support, but when I put in my iPad’s number, it said I needed to go to the AT&T Premier site for that number. When I put in my number on the Premier site, it said I needed to go back to the main AT&T site. It’s maddening.

Fast forward to today. Today, I get an email saying:

This is the only response I ever got from AT&T, and of course, it’s a total lie. I didn’t request my account was cancelled, and it certainly wasn’t due to inactivity either! Even the part about att.com/contactus is total BS. You can’t contact them about this plan there! That page is all about funneling you around through useless FAQs, and there is no entry for “AT&T cancelled my service and won’t say why”!

So I called AT&T to figure this out. I got their phone number off of my credit card statement, thinking someone at that number should be able to tell me something. The lady that answered was nice, but said she couldn’t help and she’d transfer me to someone who could. That person said the same, and anyway, I ended up getting transferred to 6 different people over the course of 2 hours (including hold times). No one was ever able to tell me anything about my account at all! I’d give them the cell number, then they’d say I needed to talk to someone else, I’d be put on hold, and the next person would say the same thing! It was beyond frustrating.

Anyway, I filed a dispute claim with my credit card company. It’s complete bull that AT&T had the gall to wait until my next billing cycle, charge me (it’s prepaid), and then cancel the service without even telling me for a week. And when they did tell me, it was a lie anyway, with no useful information. I tried really hard to contact AT&T and get an answer out of them. I really did try.

AT&T – why do you treat your customers like this? I get it if I’m using too much data and you don’t want my business, but in that case, why not just say so? Instead you cancel in the most offensive way. It wastes a ton of my time and your customer support persons’ time too.

Is it just me, or is this completely crazy? This experience will turn me off of AT&T for years. Lots of friends and family come to me for tech support, some of them have AT&T plans. I’m going to tell them about my experience.

I’ve never had such an abysmal customer service experience. I’m honestly just in disbelief here.

Catching up on these posts. ATT is awful. They've run Directv into the ground. I keep thinking I might try their wireless but I hate to give them any of my dollars. I went thru a long process with their business services division.....said they could connect fiber last fall to our address. Then they wanted us to pay 120K to do so.

Post by **LoveMeSomeCALTE** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:27 pm

Bill,

Thank you for compiling this information

BillA wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:10 pm ATT tablet/iPad plan $35/mo, 30Mbps speeds, 50ms latency, deprioritized after 30GB, has been discontinued.

Isn it deprioritized after 22GB? I get emails after consuming 22GB.

BillA wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:10 pm Tmobile unlimited prepaid $60/mo, 100Mbps speeds, 40ms latency, deprioritized after 50GB
Tmobile based SimpleMobile $50/mo, 100Mbps speeds, 40ms latency, deprioritized during congestion

So the Tmobile unlimited prepaid plans is prioritized until 50GB is met?

I ask because I see some Tmobile unlimited prepaid plans on eBay for $30/mo (seems to be the same $60/mo plan) while the same sellers sell the SimpleMobile $50/mo for $60 for 90 days.

Both are great deals if they are exactly as promised so I'm looking for more information

BillA wrote: Thu Feb 20, 2020 5:10 pm Verizon unlimited prepaid $70/mo, 50Mbps speeds, 50ms latency, deprioritized during congestion
Verizon based Visible $40/mo, 10Mbps speeds, 150+ms latency, deprioritized during congestion
Verizon based PagePlus $55/mo, 50Mbps speeds, 50ms latency, deprioritized during congestion

So the $70/mo Verizon unlimited prepaid is functionally the same as the $55/mo PagePlus? (which can be had for $30/mo on eBay)

Post by **LoveMeSomeCALTE** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:30 pm

Unfortunately, post merger, Tmobile is going the way of ATT, so it seems like a Verizon MVNO will be the go to for us rural folks. Look at my latest posting for my personal experience.

Post by **LoveMeSomeCALTE** » Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:34 pm

gscheb wrote: Tue Apr 28, 2020 11:30 pm Maybe they don't care considering they sell ISP plan for only $50 per month. Just like the AT&T plan it is all good till it isn't.

The Tmobile $50 per month "home ISP" plan wasn't available everywhere to begin with. We bothered them almost a year ago enough, for them to offer it and last month they yanked it saying they were going to "reboot" their "home ISP" drive with "better and faster 5G" - the thing is, until their grand plans happen, we don't have an internet connection in the meantime.

More in my latest post.

Post by **LoveMeSomeCALTE** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:49 am

gscheb wrote: Fri May 29, 2020 2:22 pm We called them on the phone told them we already had our own device. They didn't even ask what the device was. They mailed us the sim card and I activated it in the the we826 with mc7455.

Check out this post here is a person that just did it. Maybe can reach out to him as well.
https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=37 ... t=30#p8482

Also last month sold a person a Mofi thru a classified add.
He got a sim card from T-mobile and put it in the device and it worked for him too.

Know it sounds to easy!

gscheb, are you talking about the $50 internet "home ISP" plan here? or something else?

Post by **gscheb** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:52 am

No this is just a phone plan on post pay tmobile

Post by **LoveMeSomeCALTE** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:05 pm

Ah.

Tmobile had come up with a $50 per month "home ISP" plan that they advertised heavily in our area. It wasn't available everywhere to begin with. When we entered our addresses in the neighborhood though, it said coming soon, so we (bit over 200 families) bothered them almost a year ago enough, for them to offer it.

Last month they yanked it saying they were going to "reboot" their "home ISP" initiative with "better and faster 5G".

The thing is, until their grand plans happen, we don't have an internet connection in the meantime!

Our community has a few temporary measures in place so we don't get fired from our jobs (we cant go to an office to work because the state is in lockdown and office utilities have been suspended because no one is using the office space) and some of us who have the time and ability are doing their bit in figuring out how to fix this mess.

Post by **gscheb** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:26 pm

LoveMeSomeCALTE wrote: Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:05 pm Ah.

Tmobile had come up with a $50 per month "home ISP" plan that they advertised heavily in our area. It wasn't available everywhere to begin with. When we entered our addresses in the neighborhood though, it said coming soon, so we (bit over 200 families) bothered them almost a year ago enough, for them to offer it.

Last month they yanked it saying they were going to "reboot" their "home ISP" initiative with "better and faster 5G".

The thing is, until their grand plans happen, we don't have an internet connection in the meantime!

Our community has a few temporary measures in place so we don't get fired from our jobs (we cant go to an office to work because the state is in lockdown and office utilities have been suspended because no one is using the office space) and some of us who have the time and ability are doing their bit in figuring out how to fix this mess.

If you and everyone you know really want T-Mobile it isn't hard to get.
Might cost you more than $50 though.
Here is a link about it https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=32 ... data#p7409
This thread about the being over 55 years old for deal.
If not that age the HD one will cost you $85.
Can also get other 3rd party resellers to use as well.
Think you can get it here for under $80.

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:39 pm

I pay like $50 a month for my Tmo plan. Im under 50.

Post by **gscheb** » Tue Jul 07, 2020 11:42 pm

What is your video streaming abilities on the $50 plan? That is my issue is need the HD allot our days is video.

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Wed Jul 08, 2020 12:08 am

That's the caveat for me. I have no clue. I don't watch TV. I'll have to eventually test that.

Post by **BillA** » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:00 am

LoveMeSomeCALTE wrote: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:27 pm Bill,

Thank you for compiling this information
Isn't it deprioritized after 22GB? I get emails after consuming 22GB.
So the Tmobile unlimited prepaid plans is prioritized until 50GB is met?

I ask because I see some Tmobile unlimited prepaid plans on eBay for $30/mo (seems to be the same $60/mo plan) while the same sellers sell the SimpleMobile $50/mo for $60 for 90 days.

So the $70/mo Verizon unlimited prepaid is functionally the same as the $55/mo PagePlus? (which can be had for $30/mo on eBay)

Tmobile/SimpleMobile prioritize around 50gigs, but in my experience it's virtually unnoticeable, unless you live in a heavily congested area like a big city. Just be weary of those "Ebay specials", you get what you pay for, in other words cheap sh*t.
The PagePlus $55 plan is essentially the same as Verizon's $75 repaid, all plans are usually less through a reseller. What others don't tell you honestly, is that there seems to be a 200GB high speed data limit per month (slow speeds thereafter) on PagePlus and on every other reseller, imposed on them by Verizon. To get the high speed data back immediately, the monthly billing cycle can be restarted early. Hopefully the limit will be lifted in time.

Post by **whitenack** » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:14 pm

I have one of these plans. A couple of days ago, my connection dropped. I have troubleshooted and the only thing I can come up with is that AT&T has blocked/cancelled my account, at least for the rest of the month (I have used a total of 550gb this month). However, I can still log into my account and don't see anything online where it has been cancelled.

Does anyone have experience with what to do next? Will they reinstate me when the month renews? If not, can I sign up again?

Post by **Didneywhorl** » Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:22 pm

Prepaid plan?

Cancel your payment method now, or convert it to post paid if possible. Or simply open a new post paid account. They will likely say nothing, and note nothing. Charge you for a new month, then cancel your account the next day. Im not joking. Its crappy.