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Yep, that's why I was wondering if that is what you were testing. Do you get about 200 Mbps in one direction then? Is there any way to restrict upload speeds so that people doing uploads don't slow down the downloads for others as much? What was the performance difference? What is your target speed...

JimHelms wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:59 pm It is, only it removes the modem WAN port.

Thanks for the help Jim.

Looking forward to it! :D So this is a CPE antenna to a CPE antenna? Cool. What does aggregate throughput mean here? Does that mean total throughput when sending and receiving at the same time? Were you able to do 40 MHz at that distance, or did that degrade the signal too much? Are you testing the...

That fixed it, apparently at!usbcomp=1,1,10d or at!usbcomp=1,1,1009 only works on MC7455 modems.

Strange thing is, it said in the kernel output it was in MBIM and QMI mode the whole time.

JimHelms wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:28 pm That is most likely the issue. MBIM is:
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AT!USBCOMP=1,3,1009

OK, trying that now.

JimHelms wrote: ↑Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:22 pm What are its symptoms?

GoldenOrb just doesn't see the modem, even though it shows up in the kernel logs.

Maybe I issued the wrong command for MBIM mode as well? Although the kernel sees it come up in MBIM currently.

well I got it out of QMI mode via my Linux laptop, but its still not working.....

I tried to put my EM7565 in QMI mode for some testing (it was in MBIM) now GoldenOrb can't talk to the modem. I see it pop up and is detected by the kernel, but I can't talk to it. I ran the following command to put it in QMI mode: at!usbcomp=1,1,10d Any ideas how to rescue my modem? I'm thinking sl...

Thanks for starting this. I'd be very interested in hearing more details about contacting tower owners and leasing space. What the contracts are like (duration, pricing, etc.). Equipment used for the hops to get closer to the customers (tower to tower) and equipment used from tower to customer woul...

It is a WISP. I'll try to contact him. If anyone has any suggestions please advise. I've seen some plans on ebay that state unlimited throttling and data, but I'm not sure if this is accurate. BTW I'm located just outside San Antonio by Lytle, pretty much a dead zone for Spectrum and Fiber services...

A few resources to get started:

http://www.wispa.org/

http://wisptools.net/ebook.php

Thought I'd start a thread to discuss WISPs. I think a lot of folks that are technical and setting up 4G conections are probably learning about WISPs in the process. They are very common in rural areas now to solve the rural broadband problem. Part of my adventure into 4G as a home internet connecti...

I too was told that I need a mofi to use Ubifi. Could someone tell what is a better alternative. I current have a PTP radio that I pay a lot for monthly, but was hoping to get this in hopes of saving a little dough. Our PTP service sometimes is crappy, but only gets better in the wee hours of the n...

Customers are a nice thing for a business to have! :lol: I bet. So are these towers owned by the cellular companies? The rates they charge for antenna space must be pretty reasonable to not put you in the red? How many wireless hops do you have to take to get from the fiber up to the first distribu...

I'm sure that WISP is a *lot* of work. Hopefully a fun type of work. Yeah it is. Hopefully it'll be a bit more fun once I start building out the network and hook up customers who are going to be thrilled. Right now it's a lot of business planning. Although, I am looking forward to doing some long r...

Nope. I've never gotten that. I haven't tried blocking all bands except 12, though. That might do it. But that's not my goal. I just want Band 12 or 66 as a 3rd carrier, to go along with Band 2 and 30, or along with Band 2 and 4 on another tower. Gotcha that makes more sense. I thought earlier you ...

xdavidx wrote: ↑Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:01 pm I saw this both with some small omni antennas and the 15 dBi panel antennas. I got 3CA with both types, with one of the carriers being Band 12.

oh, but the PCC wasn't Band 12, right?

All I can say is that theory is fine, but it doesn't trump what is done in practice. If you are saying they won't give out lower frequency bands to those users close to the towers (those with strong signal strengths), that isn't the case here. I have physically been to the towers and been given low...

No. What I am saying is that in my situation, if a competitor sprung up that was taking away cable customers, they could face harrassment from the cable company. The form of that harrassment could be trying to create legal problems on the RF front. That doesn't mean they would have anything legitim...

This worked with Em7565 on my plan. What I did was buy a used Pantech UML290 modem off of Ebay for $6. Went and got a Sim from Best buy. I then used the pantech IMED # to register the Sim on my account. I put the Sim directly into my WE1326 router with EM7565. I did not ever put this in the pantech...

Hot-rodding! I like it. You're right that the vast majority could care less what their highest speed is as long as they can stream Netflix, etc. And honestly now days thats all we really need. Video conferencing software typically uses less than 5mb/sec. The average household only uses about 10mb/s...

Good point. Generally, not as much gain is needed for the lower frequencies, since they travel farther. The antenna this thread started with has the following gain for the low frequencies: 14-17 dBi 600-960 MHz That would be fine. I'm just not quite ready to give up on the dream of having the lower...

I was saying the cable company could try to create problems (even if there weren't any FCC rules being broken) on the RF front through the long range wifi network being set up. And it wouldn't be reselling of a cable connection. I'm sure they'd *really* love that! How are you getting the carrier gr...

Now *that* is an idea! Wonder how long it would take for the cable company to get me shut down if I tried that. Our house and the handful around ours can't get cable, but a lot of other people on the street can. I'm sure the cable company would wonder what is going on when all their customers drop,...

Thanks, my location has a lot of similarities to yours and reading your posts verified a lot of my own experiences. Thanks for sharing your expertise. When I first got my z700a home base I thought I was in heaven because I could get 5 down, 1 up on HSPA+. Little did I know then what I was getting m...

Well I can't verify exactly what the mf279 is doing because it only shows signal strength and 4g or 4gLTE. However it performs similar to the we826 so I assume it's using the same band. The we826 would aggregate bands 2 and 12 when set on all bands but I never saw any improvement in speed versus be...

Good ideas. I'll do some more testing and report back here, before I decide to just stick with the 7455.

nice setup! Based on the bands you're using it sounds like you're using AT&T?

Mind sharing links to the antenna and feed horn you got?

OK, I got it figured out, below is an update on that flashing issue, and the testing I did. When I first attempt to flash the modem, I got a error similar to the following (as seen on this link: https://github.com/danielewood/sierra-wireless-modems/blob/master/Sierra-Linux-QMI-SDK.md ) mbim open res...

For what it's worth I'm following these instructions/adapted to my setup: https://github.com/danielewood/sierra-wireless-modems/blob/master/Sierra-Linux-QMI-SDK.md Starting at line "EM7565 from Version <01.05.01.00 (Release <9) to Latest Release (9+)" I didn't upgraded from less than Relea...

Careful. That looks like you have the configuration flashed, but not the true image flashed, since the ID for generic doesn't match either of the lines above for the images. Was that after a reset of the modem? I unplugged the modem from my PI and plugged it into my Ubuntu Laptop to flash it. It lo...

Well, I got it flashed, but not sure how to select this image. You can see the last line next to "PRI" is the image i just flashed onto it.

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If you haven't re-aimed the antenna yet, maybe that's another reason it jumped CIDs. Maybe a more focused aim would change which CID it prefers. that status page i showed was only using the little 3dbi omnis, not my full outdoor setup. I was testing before I swapped the modem into my outdoor nema e...

Maybe you are close the sector boundary and it is jumping between the CID ending in 612 and the one ending in 614. Obviously, those B66 chunks are nice, but the 20 MHz B4 was nice too. Yeah, it might turn out that the 7455 is better. Regardless, trying to find information on how to properly flash t...

What happened to your primary Band 4 CID (ending in 612)? Not sure yet, I think there might be two carriers on B66. I tried unplugging and replugging in the antennas, and briefly saw B4 and B5 along with B66. I'm going to try to determine how to upgrade to the latest firmware and hope I don't brick...

The way I understand it, and until the latest firmware release a couple of weeks ago, Band 66 had some sort of glitch. I am not sure that is the issue cause I do not use anything with Band 66, but I would certainly try flashing it with the latest firmware. that's what I was just wondering. Might gi...

Well, I got the modem and connected it to test, but having some odd issue with the secondary and third carrier main antenna RSSI and RSRP. Not sure what is up with this. I checked the connectors to make sure they aren't grounding, but I don't get why the primary carrier looks fine but the rest look ...

HA! I have 2 of them! It was hanging from the mast, inside that bag, so there was enough air flow and it wasn't being heated by the shingles. My mast is lying down now, so it isn't....um..optimal. :lol: I have an incremental process going on here. Very, very incremental. :D As much as I grumble whe...

The router is inside a white garbage bag, down toward the open end, to protect it from rain, but sitting on the roof currently. It is very sunny out. I wasn't sure if it was the weather and its location or if it was low voltage causing it to draw more current and heating it up. Wait, what? In a gar...

I'm probably going to get one of those AC measuring devices, as I need one anyways. I'll take some measurements of the PI with a few modems and see what happens.

So the Pi supports POE, but you aren't doing POE to the device? Why the splitter? What type of injector do you have? Wow! That's a tiny amount of power usage! That Pi must use hardly anything! Does it not have wifi? Is that at full download speeds? How do you measure it? And is that with the Verizo...

With your Pi setup, maybe you can get by with normal POE without a splitter. Does the Pi support 802.3af or 802.3at and how much power does the device draw without adding on the modem and USB enclosure? I currently power my setup with 802.3af. It doesn't look like the PI supports 802.3at from what ...

I'm in the same boat. I've been doing my preliminary stuff with an extension cord. The EM7565 seems to be too power hungry to run with power over ethernet. So I'm going to have to run wire up to the roof. However, in order to do it right, a GFCI should be used. I also have a cell booster that I pla...

I just realized I could probably aggregate band 13 + band 4, so I tried that by locking the modem to those two bands. I was able to get them to CA together for a total bandwith of 30mhz but it didn't make much download difference. I suspect this is because band 13 is still pretty congested. It'll be...

While I'm waiting for my EM7565 in the mail, I decided to try and lock bands to B4+B2. I thought with this I could maybe get some faster download speeds because B4 is 20mhz (I'm already connected to that) and B2 is 10mhz. I locked the modem to B4+B2 but it wouldn't give me any CA with B2. I locked t...

Is that tower in your back yard?! That SINR! Get another 10 or 20 MHz of bandwidth and you'll be flying. Is that during busy times of the day or off hours? ha! It nearly is, about 1.3 miles away. Those tests were in the evening. It's a very under utilized tower now that it got all these additional ...

Here's some screenshots of the signal stats and speed with the Verizon sim in my outdoor setup.

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I thought in you original post you mentioned 13 and 5 too? Band 66 is a superset of Band 4. Are you saying that you have 3 chunks in there that you can access once you get the EM7565? What you are accessing now in band 4 and then 2x15 MHz of additional spectrum? Yeah, I wish the EM7565's qualcomm m...

Wow, so you are going to have Bands 2, 4, 5, 13, 66 (times 2), all from one tower?? Now you just need a 6CA modem! :D Wonder if you would get bands 2 and 13 if you blocked 4 and 5? That 20 MHz band 4 is *nice*. Can't get any better than that for an upload carrier. Well, except if it was one of the ...

Oh yeah. Might still be able to see the bandwidth on the others though. It will be nice when the 5G modems come out and support all the bands. Indeed. The band 4 for in the status screenshot is 20mhz, so thats a good sign. Band 66 is a extension of Band 4, but the 7455 doesn't support it. I was abl...

I couldn't resist the temptation to try this before my EM7565 arrives, so I reactivated my pre-paid unlimited Verizon plan and setup my test PI and MC7455 inside my house in my office. The results are super exciting, see below. Screen Shot 2019-07-03 at 10.22.52 AM.png That upload!! Screen Shot 2019...

Congratulations! If the MC7455 modems support those bands, you could band lock a couple at a time to see the widths. An underutilized bunch of bands just for you! Lucky! Thanks, I"m excited at the possibility of having an even faster connection. the MC7455 unfortunately doesn't support B66, so...

Today is my lucky day. I use Verizon for phone service, and noticed tonight that my signal strength was rather weak (only one bar, instead of the normal 3 or 4). I thought this was a bit odd, because my local Verizon tower (the only one in my area from my house) only has band 13 (750mhz) so I usuall...

Are they limiting it to a specific rate? I don't know, but the common speed test sites are very slow on download, but show a normal upload speed. It became apparent after a while, because normal browsing / web traffic on Verizon's network was fast, but speed tests showed like 200kb/sec. I did find ...

I've noticed that Verizon rate limits to various speed test sites. I believe they do this to help safe airtime on their spectrum. I'm guessing because a lot of people were doing speed tests which use a lot of unnecessary bandwith.

serverside wrote: ↑Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:41 am Anyone know the answer to this? When did the Rooter builds start working with QMI?

I don't know exactly, but its been a few releases back.

I noticed that too randomly when trying a newer version of GoldenOrb.

Thanks for the info. I'm going to set it up soon, and do a full write up on how to do this.

(Ping under load - there have been people streaming most of the time that it's been running.) Thanks everyone for the help! I figured out a solution - use qmi. (That would have been a really simple thing to just randomly try before going through all the effort of actually tracking it down... but I ...

is it possible you are getting buffer bloat? That can cause high latency during speed tests and such.

I'd suggest testing here to see if that is the issue: http://www.dslreports.com/speedtest

Manufacturers specs are almost never accurate. I'd recommend getting one of these if you need to know the exact amount of power usage: https://www.amazon.com/P3-P4400-Electricity-Usage-Monitor/dp/B00009MDBU/ref=asc_df_B00009MDBU/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167125429392&hvpos=1o2&a...

Openwrt actually bridges interfaces just fine, it's the rooter scripts that stops the bridge from working. Rooter is just not set up for this feature. If you want a true bridge just dont use rooter. Install your drivers and packages you need to run the modem then just bridge the lan and wan and it'...

I am absolutely sure APN is Correct. it is the same as my tablet or phone. both on the same plan. I would be interested on how the mc7455 owners get on verizon I would think it would be the same. I had to get a supported 4G modem, and get it registered with that. Then move the sim into the MC7455.

You should be able to use a compatible device on their network, and once its registered just swap it over to the EM7565. I had to do that with a MC7455 to get mine to work (it was a process issue with them activating me, more than a technical one).

Interesting results. That grid antenna really helps with upload speeds. I did some research into that amplifier, it looks like it only takes one input though, and you can't hook up both antennas to it? Also, if AT&T is in the area, I'd recommend trying them. It looks like Verizon's network is pr...

sometimes lower gain antennas work better as the signal is scattered coming through the trees.

MIMO is critical in LTE, and I would highly suggest using an antenna that supports it (or two physically separate ones for that matter).

Yes, delete that file. Not sure why both of those would be included by default, unless setup via the GUI.

Interesting results. It looks like though with the parabolic antenna you aren't getting a diversity signal? You can see that on the RxD RSSI line as compared to the omni antennas.

Does the parabolic antenna have two RF cables (like N connectors) or just one?

1337Jess wrote: ↑Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:27 pm Sevierville, Tennessee

Makes sense, I'm up near Clayton, GA.

The mountains help limit usage of the cells as well by blocking range

Sorry, I should have responded sooner to this thread. In my limited experience Verizon's networks are very congested compared to AT&Ts. I think its because Verizon has a reputation for good coverage, which is true. This brings more mobile phone users to their network, and because we are trying t...

xdavidx wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 11:03 am It says vertical or horizontal polarization.

You'd want both for LTE, not just one.

xdavidx wrote: ↑Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:36 am Claims are:

14-17 dBi
600-960 MHz

20-23 dBi
1700-2700 MHz

23-26 dBi
3000-6500 MHz

That doesn't seem too far off, but I'd go with something that supports MIMO, does that antenna support it? If I recall in the past that thing was only one polarization?

xdavidx wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:51 pm So do you think the claims of that 26 dBi antenna are far fetched?

Yes, and if they are true its most surely for the highest frequency that antenna supports, which is probably 2700mhz.

How tall is your mast? This is 10 feet. It may look taller due to camera angle. The answer to the question is that I don't know. I am still testing and dealing with variables. There are a handful of trees on my property and the neighbor's that this height helps to get to the less dense upper branch...

do you really need that height to get the signal/performance desired? I considered at one point mounting my entire setup at the top of the mountain on the back of my property (200+ ft) higher, but decided it wasn't worth it and found the performance I got at my house was plenty.

I don't know of anyone that has.

Those two things don't coincide. If you want a higher gain antenna it is not typically going to be a wide bandwith. Especially when you get on the lower frequencies. A high gain 700mhz antenna is huge.

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