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by JimHelms
Mon May 20, 2019 2:40 pm
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Re: Need help with EM7565 setup

Annahah wrote: Sat May 18, 2019 2:56 pm i still couldnt get it to work, i tried what you said, does anyone else have any more ideas please?
If you need assistance, please submit a separate topic for help.

Include what components you are using, what steps you have taken, what issues you are having.
by swwifty
Sat Nov 16, 2019 8:24 am
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Re: LTE Carrier Aggregation

CA is entirely controlled by the carrier, but you can limit your modem to only certain bands, but if they aren't available on the tower side theres nothing you can do about that.
by JimHelms
Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:21 am
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Re: Quectel EP06-A AT commands for carrier aggregation bandlock?

You may find what you need from HERE to get you started.

I have little to no experience with the Quectel line of modems, although I will need to figure them out since we will be stocking them on the store.
by gscheb
Sat Dec 21, 2019 7:40 am
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Re: Cradlepoint CBA850 with Visible (the service)

Hello, Set my uncle up with this. All they do is email, Facebook, Netflix and basic browsing..So it is just fine for them they think it is great. But anyway from what I seen compared to Verizon is the ping is basically double and the download speed is 70% of Verizon. Here is a video about it https:/...
by gscheb
Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:25 am
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Re: Cradlepoint CBA850 with Visible (the service)

Hello Yes they do say you can't put out in router but you can. Just have to configure it for it. You have to put it in phone first with the app to activate it. Then configure hotspot / router for it. That is what I did for my uncle. He is using it with a nighthawk M1. Now yes in it you are still dea...
by tambutso
Wed Dec 25, 2019 4:55 pm
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Re: Has anyone built We826-T2 with Telit/fibocom with LTE modems with success?

I was going to ask the same thing, but different modem. Any experience from the group using a foxconn T77W968? this is supposed to be an m.2 modem card for dell laptops. it has a Qualcomm Snapdragon X20 in it and rated CAT16. I am more than willing to put in the money for something like this and max...
by Yipzy
Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:41 am
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Re: Has anyone built We826-T2 with Telit/fibocom with LTE modems with success?

Not sure if the Foxconn T77W968 Dell DW5821E version is locked to Dell laptops only, or it can be used freely in routers?? Being a Cat-16 with 5xCA in an M.2 package looks almost too good to be true at around $100usd with all these bands: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29,...
by JimHelms
Mon Sep 16, 2019 7:09 am
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Re: Mofi 4500 Module in MBIM Wrong Mode

The easiest method (without having to remove the modem and installing in a USB to Mini PCI-E adapter and reprogramming the modem) would be to reinstall GoldenOrb. Then, use the AT-Terminal to place the modem in QMI using the following commands: at!entercnd="A710" at!usbcomp=1,1,10d at!rese...
by JimHelms
Sun Dec 29, 2019 8:51 am
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Re: Has anyone built We826-T2 with Telit/fibocom with LTE modems with success?

2. It's possible that Yipzy's device came with a generic firmware, allowing it to work in a non-laptop environment. This crossed my mind and I tried to locate a generic firmware to flash the modem to no avail. 3. He used it on external USB enclosure instead of as an internal modem. I have the modem...
by Yipzy
Sun Dec 29, 2019 4:15 pm
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Re: Has anyone built We826-T2 with Telit/fibocom with LTE modems with success?

Thanks, good to know. I've read somewhere about being locked, but I think that pertains to not being able to use it in an HP/Dell/Lenovo laptop, which has been flashed with generic firmware (something to do with the laptop's bios checking for authenticity). But it seems like it works the other way ...
by JimHelms
Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:15 am
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Re: Sierra Wireless Modems - Selecting the Preferred Carrier Firmware

When you say "carrier's firmware", do you mean a carrier profile with preset band values, or an actual firmware flash file? The modem contains the carrier's actual firmware. As an example, these are the latest carrier's firmware available for the Sierra Wireless MC7455: Sierra Wireless Ca...
by Yipzy
Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:23 pm
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Re: Has anyone built We826-T2 with Telit/fibocom with LTE modems with success?

Maybe @JimHelms could try this method as I have looked into it as well but never followed through since I am able to flash with my Dell. The second link is just how it flashes your modem or switch to your carrier when a particular sim is detected. Latest ModemManager does that and I just comment out...
by Need4Speed
Fri Aug 23, 2019 6:44 am
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Re: I returned the mofi router..

I too almost bought a mofi before reading the reviews about thier customer support on Amazon. So glad I found thewirelesshaven.com! For just a little more $$ I was able to build a WG3526 with Em7565 modem vs mofi's (imo outdated) pre-built router. Plus with thewirelesshaven.com you have an entire co...
by A.Bursell
Mon Dec 30, 2019 10:48 am
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Re: Advantage to reflash Mofi firmware?

Thanks for the reply. I have all 4 slots filled on mine and each time I took it out I flashed each one. Twice if I remember right. Didn't have any effect that I could tell, I still got stuck and had to do it again when I tried the reset.
by Jardin_Espanol
Sun Dec 29, 2019 9:30 pm
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Re: Sierra Wireless Modems - Selecting the Preferred Carrier Firmware

Telit LM940 and LM960 modems have multiple carrier images as well.
by JimHelms
Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:42 pm
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Re: Multiple LTE Modems

BillA wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2020 2:40 pm Good to know, my only concern would be a heat wave when it gets above 120 (Texas/Florida comes to mind;).
We are jest outside of Dallas, about as close to Texas as one can get.
by terryjett
Mon Jan 06, 2020 4:33 pm
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Homebrew Quad 1900MHz Antennas V2

Thought I would share my latest go at creating antennas from scratch. The performance is great and if you like creating things, you will love this project. If you see my other post on biquads (https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=639), you will see where I got the design from. Cannot c...
by JimHelms
Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:00 pm
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Re: WE1326 and MC7455 Slow issues

The difference in speed between the phone and MC7455 are most likely due to the category difference (i.e., CAT6 vs CAT12...18) in the two devices, and the bands that are available for each device. We see this on the EM7565 CAT12 (3 x carrier aggregation and band 66) verses the MC7455 CAT6 (with 2 x ...
by swwifty
Wed Jan 08, 2020 7:49 pm
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Re: Antenna Distance Abilities

The problem with signals at longer distances, it can vary with the air's ionization, humidity, clouds, rain, snow, blooming trees, etc. So just because you may get a great signal on a nice clear summer day, you could also get really crappy signal on a humid rainy/snowy day. Generally, a high qualit...
by tambutso
Thu Jan 09, 2020 4:31 am
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Re: Fibocom L860-GL Antenna setup

Thanks always for the advice Bill. 👍
by Orvalman
Thu Jan 09, 2020 12:59 pm
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Re: WE826-T2 + Sierra Wireless EM7565 - Apple Devices Fine/Laptop Not Fine

Thanks, BillA! I tried the various steps, and although they did not seem to solve the problem it did lead to me trying something else I read about - TTL settings... I changed mine after a few options to "64" and that seems to allow all devices to work fine - Apple products and my laptop - ...
by yzrmbsg
Thu Dec 19, 2019 5:12 am
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Re: em7455 seems stuck on LTE B2

What you did with your AT command is to only allow band 2, 4, and 12 to be used. This does not however, have anything to do with what the tower is going to let you use. The band you get...is what the tower tells you to get. You can band lock to a single band 4 or 12 or 4 and 12 to aid in carrier agg...
by gscheb
Wed Feb 26, 2020 4:56 pm
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Re: Mofi Network Return Abuse

Well to return to this topic about Mofi. They have now had the router back in their possession since 1-16-2020. They still where not refunding my money. Literally been calling them everyday to try to get the money back. Keep saying yes today we will do it. Then they don't and then call the next day....
by Didneywhorl
Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:25 am
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Re: I'm currently using.....

I used to be a victim, but I had zero Idea of the options available. That was prob 4 years ago now. They are crazy high with some of it, and they have lost provider accounts in the past screwing their customers
by jose.herrera
Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:15 am
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Re: EM7455 set to qmi?

I found a solution if anyone ever gets stuck in my position. I ran these commands.
at!entercnd="A710"
at!RMARESET=1
at!reset
And it defaulted to MBIM,but running the commands for qmi again were successful after the reset.
by JimHelms
Wed Jan 15, 2020 6:55 am
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Re: WE 826-GO / Sierra EM7565 CAT-12 and Visible

I'm a novice that is getting really frustrated . I'm not sure who or what I should be listening to at this point. I'm getting conflicting advice between the articles posted and the advice I have been given here. All I wanted was a router that I could pop my sim card into. Now I have this expensive ...
by gscheb
Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:50 pm
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Re: NetGear NightHawk M1 Inside Antenna Ports

Looks like a all in one thing to me.
Nighthawk M1 Other side.PNG
Here is a Video of someone taking one apart if that helps.
Where this picture came from.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8NS_FLUwwQ
by JimHelms
Thu Jan 16, 2020 7:17 pm
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Re: Golden Orb Public Static IP Issues - MWAN3

You might also want to refer to GoldenOrb's tutorials HERE and HERE.
by GrandPooh-Bah
Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:32 am
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Re: WE 826-GO / Sierra EM7565 CAT-12 and Visible

I ended up going into Modem/Miscellaneous/AT-Command Terminal to complete the fix.

Code: Select all

At!entercnd="A710"
At!usbcomp=1,3,1009
At!reset
by gscheb
Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:32 pm
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Re: WE 826-GO / Sierra EM7565 CAT-12 and Visible

Hello.
If you read visible website it says hotspot capped at 5 down. Are you sure this isn't a TTL issue? Heard in the past that Verizon needed TTL of 117. This is technically Verizon. And I think high pings are just par for the course with Visible.
by WallyC
Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:57 pm
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Re: External Antenna Band 13 MIMO?

If I remember right, band 13 is like the flagship band for Verizon, aka congestion city. Are there other bands available? 2, 4/66, 5? yes, band 2, but it was -122. I was wondering, what's that white box in the middle of the mast? Since I don't see the antenna cables running into it... dying to find...
by Didneywhorl
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:36 am
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Re: External Antenna Band 13 MIMO?

BillA wrote: Sun Jan 19, 2020 1:16 am Great! Knowing what that box is, now I can live again! ;D
LoL, killin me Bill
by JimHelms
Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:39 pm
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Re: WE 826-GO / Sierra EM7565 CAT-12 and Visible

This is what I would try. Go to SYSTEM > BACKUP/FLASH FIRMWARE RESTORE > RESET TO DEFAULTS. Once it came back on line, I would set the APN and the Time Zone. I would then test the WiFi as it is before making any changes. The WiFi on these units are far from optimal, and can be a little finicky--espe...
by JimHelms
Sat Sep 15, 2018 12:33 pm
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Re: Utilizing MC7455 and EM7565 Dual SIM

I experimented with the dual SIM setup sometime ago. From referencing my notes, you must first enable the dual Sim functionality in the modem: AT!ENTERCND="A710" AT!CUSTOM="UIM2ENABLE",1 AT!RESET The SIM cards will be references as "0" for SIM card Slot 1 and SIM card S...
by jameshilliard
Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:52 pm
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Re: FIRMWARE FOR WE826 | WG3526 | WE3926 | WE1326 | WE1026

Hi James, I just acquired my wg3526 and barely new on this kind of router. (so please bear with my noob questions :D) I'm planning to buy DW5821e and insert it to my wg3526, I don't need any special configuration and I just need to make the carrier aggregation (and the internet ofcourse :D) works s...
by GrandPooh-Bah
Sat Jan 25, 2020 2:45 pm
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Re: WE 826-GO / Sierra EM7565 CAT-12 and Visible

I get true unlimited data from Visible. Verizon cant touch that for $25 per month (per phone) on visible with 4 phones. My quality VPN is only $30 per year with my discount. Been using the VPN with my hotspot phone with no issues.
by radec
Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:30 pm
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Re: Are Sprint sim cards device locked?

If you have extra cash to burn, might as well upgrade to the latest 5G modems... (warning, prices are insane!) Quectel RM500Q 5G https://www.4gltemall.com/quectel-rm500q.html Telit FN980 5G https://www.4gltemall.com/telit-fn980.html Fibocom FG100 5G Intel chipset https://www.4gltemall.com/fibocom-f...
by Didneywhorl
Sat Jan 25, 2020 7:25 pm
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Re: MIMO Setup Help

Bill, you are correct.
by scott.flora
Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:59 am
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Re: MR1100 Nighthawk Located Outdoors

"Trees 1 and 2" are not so much a problem (multi-path reflection could get around them), but the large collection of trees near your house could be interfering (the thickness of their crowns could attenuate the signal). If you cleared those (or maybe just their top) and have a tall pole f...
by Didneywhorl
Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:56 am
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Re: External Antenna Band 13 MIMO?

Just for giggles, did you try aiming in all 360 degrees, 10-20 degrees at a time, to see if you can capture any mystery towers? Its sometimes surprising.
by JimHelms
Sun Nov 17, 2019 6:59 pm
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Re: At Wits End....

What type of coax cables are you using, and how long are they?

It is not uncommon to lose more through cabling that what is otherwise being gained by the antennas.

I would use THIS calculator as a start.
by Adamaldo08
Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:42 am
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Re: Mini PCI-E adapter with SIM card slot

You guys are Awesome! I feel way better now moving forward with assembly. My main concern was I didn’t want to fry anything. And I didn’t want to assemble everything to find out I needed to use the SIM card slot on the adapter instead of the one one the side of the router. Thank you for all the info...
by SliverGT
Sat Feb 01, 2020 11:27 am
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Re: MOFI firmware vs Goldenorb?

I agree with Bill that running Golden Orb on the Mofi is not liklely to help your speeds much. Is your cable length really 115ft? If so that is attenuating a lot of your signal, especially if you are using band 2 on AT&T at 1900mhz. According to their chart you are losing 7.5db which is nearly 8...
by scott.flora
Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:32 pm
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Re: MR1100 Nighthawk Located Outdoors

To follow up on this project I now have the Nighthawk and antennas relocated. I ran 100 ft. of direct burial network cable and light duty (#16) direct burial power cable to power the unit. I Have the nighthawk enclosed in a Coleman six pack cooler. The cooler has to vent holes with filter screens th...
by ironman_gq
Tue Feb 11, 2020 9:55 am
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Re: ZBT WG3526 - I can't visit some sites?

I was just looking for a solution for the same issue with a WE826 with an EM7565 on ATT. Turning of the "Use Builtin IPc6" on WAN1 seems to have solved the issue for me.
by LateParrot
Sat Sep 28, 2019 1:43 pm
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Re: WE826 | WG3526 | WE3926 | WE1326 | WE1026 - Firmware Recovery Mode

Something not mentioned here is that the bootloader runs on http and not https. Most cases luci-ssl is enabled and neither chrome or firefox will switch between them automagically. If you're getting pings from the router but can't access luci or the bootloader check the address bar and make sure you...
by MrEdLu
Wed May 15, 2019 8:29 am
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Re: WE826 | WG3526 | WE3926 | WE1326 | WE1026 - Firmware Recovery Mode

I find running a continuous ping against 192.168.1.1 is a good way to know when to release the reset button in step 7. Release as soon as there is a ping response from 192.168.1.1.
by swwifty
Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:12 am
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Re: ISP wants a MOFI4500-4GXELTE-SIM4_COMBO...alternatives?

It's very common on the outskirts of san antonio area. Kinda of a monopoly for us. Vtx took over rock solid from my sources. Crowded network makes it's difficult to use. If only I can find a card that would support the AWS band to take full advantage of lte, but using mofi I still dont think it wou...
by terryjett
Sat Feb 15, 2020 5:17 pm
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Re: This a good router option for Tmobile?

BillA wrote: Sat Feb 15, 2020 4:17 pm Tmobile uses imei lock on that service/hotspot, and with a "special" command on certain modems you could clone it, but I don't condone it, and that's my rhyme for today. lol
Funny man, lol. But, very interesting info. Have to think about this...
by Factor
Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:07 pm
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Re: Qotom Q355G4 Install

That's an interesting device... looks like it can run both Windows and Linux, but doubt it can run OpenWRT/GoldenOrb/WiFix. Nonetheless, on Windows you should be able to run Connectify (a software hotspot). Oh, it can. I have OpenWRT 19 running right now on it. Normally I use this device for a rout...
by Factor
Tue Feb 18, 2020 8:27 pm
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Re: Hello All

Were you able to get your "Cell> WiFi connection" working? Bill I am going to try the ZBT 1326 tomorrow. I was able to get the modem to present on the PC engines API3c4. I couldn't get the kmods and wifi drivers to install for my wle900 wifi module the version or kernel was too old in the...
by JimHelms
Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:03 pm
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Modifying WiFiX | GoldenOrb for IPV4 APN

WiFiX and GoldenOrb firmware by default assings and sends the APN as IPV4V6. There are occasions when an APN will requires an IPV4 address. This tutorial will modify the script to send the APN to an IPV4 address. There are two options provided for this modification: 1. Edit the c reate_connect.sh sc...
by silverwing
Mon Feb 24, 2020 3:31 pm
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Re: WG3526 Router with EM7511 for sale

nothing is wrong with it, only wanted to build one. hasn't been running more than a few hours.
by MrEdLu
Fri Feb 28, 2020 10:25 pm
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Re: New GoldenOrb 2020-03-01 Firmware

Not sure what you mean with the TTL setting. Are you referring to this screen?
Screen Shot 2020-02-28 at 11.20.36 PM.png
If so, it looks the same as the previous version.
by terryjett
Sat Feb 29, 2020 12:31 am
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Re: Cba850 ATT issues..

You are in fact connected to Band 2 and CA Band 12, which should give pretty good results. Those were always the best bands for me. But, your signal levels do not look good, matter of fact they are considered poor. If you had better figures than shown in your image, something has changed. Water in a...
by JimHelms
Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:50 am
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Quectel - Programming Carrier Bands and Groups of Bands

I prepared an Excel spreadsheet to assist in programming bands and/or a group of bands, on the Quectel modems. As with all material on this forum, use at your own risk. I have plans on including other Quectel modems when time permits, as well as a quick tutorial for commonly used AT Commands for the...
by jhend
Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:25 pm
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Re: Quectel EP06-A AT commands for carrier aggregation bandlock?

BillA wrote: Wed Feb 19, 2020 12:05 pm
All bands for the EP06-E specifically:
AT+QCFG="band",8d0,7e00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000ff000001a0880800d5,0
That should read:

AT+QCFG="band",8d0,1a1880800d5,0
by usav3t
Sun Mar 15, 2020 6:31 pm
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Re: Connection Logs question

I'm using the 12V 2.5A 30W Power Adapter I bought from The Wireless Haven. If you're talking about in the profile where it says connection monitoring it says disabled. Also, my freaking wifi will NOT stay up and keeps loosing wifi connection. I recently started using this modem as well and I can te...
by terryjett
Sun Mar 15, 2020 7:42 pm
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Re: Netgear LB1120 or a different modem?

I had this posted here and now it’s gone....not sure why exactly..... Pretty sure the board was having some issues or maybe an update went bad and some posts lost. If the netgear LB1120 is unlocked, SimpleMobile $50 truly unlimited ($45 prepaid) may be a good choice for you. Using it myself in plac...
by jhend
Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:46 am
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Re: Quectel EP06-A AT commands for carrier aggregation bandlock?

For Linux users, I wrote a little shell script to display LTE band values. #!/bin/sh # printf "%s%20s\n" "Band L-bandmask-1" "L-bandmask-2" LBAND=1 BBAND=1 while [ $LBAND -le 48 ] do printf "%-6s%016X\n" "B$LBAND" "$BBAND" LBAND=$(( $LBAND ...
by JimHelms
Wed Mar 18, 2020 8:32 am
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Re: Quectel EP06-A AT commands for carrier aggregation bandlock?

JoshKelly wrote: Tue Mar 17, 2020 5:34 pm Thank you so much, I kept reading mention of a calculator but was having a hard time finding it. This is great!

Josh
The spreadsheet has been updated for the corrections that jhend pointed out.
by terryjett
Fri Mar 20, 2020 6:02 pm
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Re: Att 65 dollar prepaid not working on wifix

I still am without internet access because I had the bright idea to buy a house in the boonies. So frustrating!! Can anybody recommend a Sim/plan I can go out and buy that will work?? I checked that list on this forum and that's why I bought the $75 ATT prepaid. Also, if you figure out a solution p...
by terryjett
Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:56 pm
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Re: Headphone Interference

You can change the WE826 wifi channel:
we826-wifi-1.png
Then:
we826-wifi-2.png
by terryjett
Mon Mar 23, 2020 4:52 pm
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Re: External Antenna for CBA850LP6 mounted inside Motorhome

Basically what Terry is saying, is that his antenna is BIGGER than yours. lmao jk
HAHAHA, lmao!
by JimHelms
Wed Feb 26, 2020 6:16 pm
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EM75XX -- Restoring Modem AT Command Port (After Using Wrong Commands)

Using the incorrect AT Commands to change the composition of an EM7565/EM7511/MC7411 mode to QMI and/or MBIM is a common mistake which results in removing the modem's AT Command port. Most generally this occurs when using the AT Commands on the EM7565/EM7511 that apply to the EM/MC74XX modems. The d...
by terryjett
Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:24 pm
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Re: MC7455 Unable to Connect

BillA wrote: Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:58 pm Just remember, I'm always right, even when I'm wrong! lmao
Yes sir, I will remember that, lol. I looked at it and thought "wonder if that should be tracfone", naw Bill does not make mistakes :mrgreen:
by terryjett
Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:37 pm
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Re: Fibocom L860-GL Antenna setup

Looks like an M.I.A.
Active March 2020 so got my fingers crossed...
by Didneywhorl
Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:45 pm
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Re: Can't flash .BIN file to my WE826-Q - Help

The bootload reset will use 192.168.1.1
by Cerebrium
Sat Mar 28, 2020 9:23 pm
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Re: Att 65 dollar prepaid not working on wifix

They are able to detect and block the modem IMEI number. You can activate the sim using the modem IMEI but when connecting it sends you to ATT homepage. Take the sim out put it in a phone everything works fine. Hope this helps.
by hw1353
Mon Mar 30, 2020 1:05 am
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Re: WE826-T2 inside DP727X8 Antenna Enclosure Questions

Just found the post I believe you're talking about.

Guess I wasn't searching the right things.

https://wirelessjoint.com/viewtopic.php?f=37 ... e&start=10
by steveg
Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:43 am
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Re: Using multiple M2M boosters on external Yagis

And don't forget to factor in cable loss. Long runs with cheap cable can negate antenna gain.
by radec
Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:20 pm
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Re: Quectel - Programming Carrier Bands and Groups of Bands

giant22000 wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:11 pm Spreadsheet is much appreciated. One problem I'm having is that every time I change any the band values the output of the band group = #N/A. Any ideas?
I had that problem as well. But then I put in google drive opened it with google sheets. worked just fine then.
by terryjett
Wed Apr 01, 2020 2:53 pm
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Re: Att 65 dollar prepaid not working on wifix

I will have to research to see if Sim cards go right in external USB enclosures or they still require the Sim to be in the router. If they can be in the USB enclosures, then I could make all this work with a used modem and an enclosure. In my tests using external USB adapter / enclosure the SIM wor...
by JimHelms
Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:16 am
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Re: WE826-T2 numerous issues

The first thing I would do is to download the latest WiFiX firmware, and use the Firmware Recovery Method to install it. I would then flash it a second time from within the WiFiX UI. This will assure all of the files from previous builds are completely overwritten. Do not backup (save) the current c...
by 56387f
Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:59 pm
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Re: Help an idiot with a not working MoFi 4500

If you got the APN down, the TTL changed, and the IMEI changed, can a carrier really do anything? They might only terminate your account on the basis of extreme usage but how would they be able to find out you're actually using a router device instead? Just to add a bit to BillA's answer. Whether o...